QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

[ajmargarine]

I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

[schwza]

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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agreed. what hands are paying off the river? maybe 88-TT?

[-Skeme-]

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I agree, could someone explain the benefit of check calling the turn and leading the river?

IMHO, the way the hand was played I think you were getting raised on the turn if you led out anyway.

[ahnuld]

Just cc river. Let him bluff off chips with A or k clubs or make a dumb value bet with AJ.

[iceman5]

Id say it was stupidity. Like you said, you cant fold to the river minimum raise. Nobody ever does, so theres no way he can raise like that as a bluff. So, either he thought his hand was good which is idiotic.....or he thought he could min raise as a bluff, which is idiotic.

Id say hes an idiot. NH.

[savman]

for the people who are advocating leading turn...this is bad play for reasons scdavis stated. leading the turn gives opponent a chance to blow u off best hand/draw. on the river i prefer check call. this time u were agianst mega donk and he minraised with a hand u beat. this will often times not be the case. i think the play is check call the river as well. yea, u will miss thvalue on some meidum pp's (when they actually call) but u gain vlaue from bluffs, plus iditos value betting hand su beat. and u lose the least when behind since we are calling minraises.

[savman]

whoa, that isnt all i wanted to say. i meant lead river against loose passives and check call against tags and lags...yea that is what i meant to say.

[Phoenix1010]

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I agree, could someone explain the benefit of check calling the turn and leading the river?

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Because you don't want goofy to raise you off the best hand/a strong draw.