i call to suck out

[joker122]

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You beat AA,AK, 9 combinations vs 3KK, so river doesn´t seem that exiting either.

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but does he 3bet the river with anything but KK?

[Trix]

I think he will often enough to call it.

[sthief09]

it's a simple math problem when you have him on AA, KK, or AK. there are 6 AA, 3 KK, and 12 AK. against the 6 AA, you have 11 outs half the time (vs a small redraw) and 2 outs vs a 1/4 redraw half the time, so 6.25 outs vs AA. against KK you have 9 outs vs a 1/3 redraw, so 6 outs. against AK a quarter of the time you have 2 outs vs a 1/5 redraw, and three quarters of the time you have 11 full outs. so you have 8.65 outs

EDIT: crap, I forget that sometimes when you hit a flush with 7 of the 9 diamonds, he will have 6 outs to a chop because 5 bigger diamonds will be on board. so that's about a 14% reduction of odds the times your flush is good. without going back and redoing the amth, that should kill about 10% of odds. sorry, just remembered this

so 6 @ 6.25, 3 @ 6 outs and 12 @ 8.65

that works out to around 7.5 outs, minus the 10%, so 6.75 (everything is head math so it could be wrong. someone check if it you want. I feel like [censored] so I'm rushing through this). you're not going to fold any turn cards, and you're getting 10-1, so 11-2 effective, which is enough for 6.75 outs twice.

so you have 6.75 outs and you'll pay off 11 cards so you're get to SD around 42%. 9 of the outs will net you 0 when they help and 1 when they hurt. 2 of them should net around 2 when they help. so you have a little bit of reverse implied odds but the calls should still be profitable

[oreogod]

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if anyone wants to see the calculations tell me.

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really no need. Well unless u want to post for others that could be reading this...as your number is spot on with what Pstove puts out.

[slik]

woe. thanks dude! this is amusing!
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what is "pwns"? still learning some acronyms.

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kinda close to "owns" but a much more in your face version. It comes from the Warcraft game era (actually mentions this below):

From Urban dictionary:


PWN (verb)

1. An act of dominating an opponent.

2. Great, ingenious; applied to methods and objects.

Originally dates back to the days of WarCraft, when a map designer mispelled "Own" as "Pwn". What was originally supose to be "player has been owned." was "player has been pwned".

Pwn eventually grew from there and is now used throughout the online world, especially in online games.
1. "I pwn these guys on battlenet"

2. "This strategy pwns!" or "This game pwn."


LINK -- for more variations

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[TheMetetron]

Umm, maybe fold PF if a LRR is likely from this guy.

Other than that, it seems played very standard.

[maxpowers21]

this is an easy fold preflop. Easy.

[stinkypete]

btw, i'm not loose in the BB in situations like this. i might defend against steals a lot when it's folded to me, but i'm pretty tight when there's 3 people in the pot. (apparently i was the BB in this hand)

[baronzeus]

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btw, i'm not loose in the BB in situations like this. i might defend against steals a lot when it's folded to me, but i'm pretty tight when there's 3 people in the pot. (apparently i was the BB in this hand)

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it was a joke [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[stinkypete]

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btw, i'm not loose in the BB in situations like this. i might defend against steals a lot when it's folded to me, but i'm pretty tight when there's 3 people in the pot. (apparently i was the BB in this hand)

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it was a joke [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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lies.