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Wondering about this river fold...
Villain is 17/11/1.5 after not too many hands. I haven't noticed him getting out of line.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (4.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (6.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 9.66 BB |
#2
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
I think it's fine personally. I don't think he's raising with KK here. If he does have an A, you are splitting at best.
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
That's what I was thinking too. He claimed to have KK after the hand and didn't believe I had an ace, so it got me questioning my play a little.
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
No way I fold there.
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
Also, am I the only one who check raises that flop?
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
My thinking was WA/WB...
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
Agreed. But it cost you an extra 6$ call on the turn, and in my opinion at least 1/2 the pot on the river.
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
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But it cost you an extra 6$ call on the turn, [/ QUOTE ] Checkraising the flop is gonna reduced that cost to $3 (disregarding getting 3bet...maybe this could be a fold, but I see the turn). Then the times when I am WA/when I make 2 pair/flush takes care of the rest I think. |
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
I don't understand why you would want to do this. What will a hand you beat do in response to a c/r? What will a hand that beats you do? Everything is fine with this play imo.
The only question is should the river be a call? What range of hands do you put him on? We can't gauge how often he is bluffing because that is more of a read based thing. I don't think it's that high though because in my experience, it is only a complete maniac that will 3-bet PF, bet flop, bet turn, and raise the river all as a bluff. He has something. The question is does he have something we beat often enough to justify a call. WiteKnite |
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Re: Wondering about this river fold...
Don't know how correct this range is, but from the flop 3 bet i was thinking AA-TT, AKs/o, and AQs/maybe off.
After the action on the river, JJ and TT seem really unlikely. I don't know how probably I think KK is, since I'm clearly thinking about it from this specific hand. We're getting 10:1 on the river call. If he plays AK/AQ/KK the same way, clearly an easy call. I guess I was thinking he wouldn't raise KK... |
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