Stars 500k QQ hand.. ummm

[MrX]

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what was the player like???? was he a solid player? had he reraised anyone prior to this?

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Look at the time..the tourney had been going on for 6 minutes.

[EverettKings]

I would probably be checkraising the flop.

I know a lot of minraising hands are now ahead of you yadda yadda, but the turn is definitely not going to do anything but put you out of position facing another bet now knowing where you're at, and maybe even facing an A or K turn card as well. I mean there is nothing that can happen on the turn (if you check/call the flop) that gives you a better idea of how to play this hand.

I'd repop the flop to 800 ish. Whatever stupid minraise-footsy game he's playing is going to end, and he's going to start playing his cards and showing you their value.

I feel like if you lead the flop for anything reasonable he's likely to minraise you and leave you guessing again. I dont hate leading and reraising a minraise, since I really like my odds of being ahead here, but I think a checkraise, even though it defines your hand, makes him define his and keeps you out of greater trouble in this already vulnerable situation.

If you called the flop I'd be checkraising or leading the turn. I definitely hate betting the river since you're effectively blufffing. OK you ran into the one guy in 20 who's playing 77 and calling you, but I don't think that's what you were aiming for when you bet.

Weird hand, I agree. One of those times where you gotta just represent your cards. He's highly unlikely to be the type to be able to read them properly anyway.

Everett

[raptor517]

do you call a shove after making it 800 on the flop? if yes, explain why. is the argument on that to be oh yer beat he shoved fold. i duno im not sure what yall are saying. if i check raised the flop, i fully intended to fold to a shove. holla

[Morbo]

Why would you call a shove if you checkraise? Every part of the hand screams he has JJ, KK, AA or possibly TT. If he shove its an easy fold. If he calls and the turn blanks, you have a trickier decision but I still think I checkfold.

Other than that, I probably checkfold or betfold the flop. Checkfolding is not bad at all, I don't care if he had 77 this time.

[raptor517]

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Why would you call a shove if you checkraise? Every part of the hand screams he has JJ, KK, AA or possibly TT. If he shove its an easy fold. If he calls and the turn blanks, you have a trickier decision but I still think I checkfold.

Other than that, I probably checkfold or betfold the flop. Checkfolding is not bad at all, I don't care if he had 77 this time.

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lol cmon man no sh1t i fold to a shove i already said that. im just making it clear as to what the other posters meant, because i can never tell what the hell some of you people are getting at. holla

[raptor517]

would anyone else in the world be crazy enough to check fold this flop? cuz it was a strong consideration. holla

[TheJackal]

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would anyone else in the world be crazy enough to check fold this flop? cuz it was a strong consideration. holla

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*COUGH WEAK TIGHT COUGH* DONT BE PHIL HELLMUTH!!!

[raptor517]

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would anyone else in the world be crazy enough to check fold this flop? cuz it was a strong consideration. holla

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*COUGH WEAK TIGHT COUGH* DONT BE PHIL HELLMUTH!!!

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lol. so many people are terribly wrong about phil being too weak tight. it works out rather well for him. holla

[TheJackal]

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lol. so many people are terribly wrong about phil being too weak tight. it works out rather well for him. holla

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I know he isn't I'm just busting his balls a bit. But c'mon, you can't check fold here, bet if you get raised big it's an easy fold since it's early in the tournament.

[raptor517]

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lol. so many people are terribly wrong about phil being too weak tight. it works out rather well for him. holla

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I know he isn't I'm just busting his balls a bit. But c'mon, you can't check fold here, bet if you get raised big it's an easy fold since it's early in the tournament.

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well, i think you CAN.. but it may not be the best play.. but it should still be an option at least CONSIDERED. iduno, maybe not. holla