River call?

jkkkk · #1 09-03-2005, 12:08 PM

Villain is 21/0, passive post-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Button ($149.10)
Hero ($251.04)
BB ($100)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($0)
UTG+2 ($44.61)
MP1 ($110.60)
MP2 ($79)
MP3 ($79)
CO ($129.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button bets $3, Hero raises to $8, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($22) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12.

River: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $25, Hero..

Does anyone block bet this river?

emil3000 · #2 09-03-2005, 12:14 PM

If he's passive postflop, you gotta fold this.

TM1212 · #3 09-03-2005, 12:15 PM

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Villain is 21/0, passive post-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Button ($149.10)
Hero ($251.04)
BB ($100)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($0)
UTG+2 ($44.61)
MP1 ($110.60)
MP2 ($79)
MP3 ($79)
CO ($129.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button bets $3, Hero raises to $8, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($22) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12.

River: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $25, Hero..

Final Pot: $71

Does anyone block bet this river?

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I slow down on the flop, ethier a busted flush draw, or a hand that has you. This is assumeing he is a striaght forward player. I really cant give you a definate decsion with out some read on how he plays. Does he bluff?, does he draw at flushes for the wrong price?

If hes an unknown i probably check call and hope for a busted flush.

jkkkk · #4 09-03-2005, 12:24 PM

I only had 40 hands on him at the time, hadn't seen him make any bluffs or do anything stupid in general, just quite passive.

FlyingStart · #5 09-03-2005, 12:24 PM

If you think he may have a flushdraw why don't you bet stronger on the turn? The half-potsized bet lets any OESD or flushdraw stay in there, and you still don't know where you stand (I would check turn tho. I don't like to get into a lot of trouble in an unraised pot). I think I would fold river as played here

jkkkk · #6 09-03-2005, 12:28 PM

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If you think he may have a flush why don't you bet stronger on the turn? The half-potsized bet lets any OESD or flushdraw stay in there, and you still don't know where you stand (I would check turn tho. I don't like to get into a lot of trouble in an unraised pot). I think I would fold river as played here

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because hes still getting an incorrect price to draw, we want him to call and bluff the river, although in this situation, I'm not sure I like calling the river.

beset7 · #7 09-03-2005, 12:47 PM

I check/fold the river if he's passive. You're only getting laid about 2.8 to 1 on the river so it's not a big mistake even if you are laying down the winner.

jjb108 · #8 09-03-2005, 01:03 PM

He may put you on a busted flush draw and be betting the little piece he has. However, he's passive and you have TP crap kicker on the flop and he stuck with it. I think his little piece beats your little piece and the paired 4's seals it for me. I'd fold. I block this occasionally to learn how someone plays b/c a busted flush folds here. I like the block against passive opponents here especially but not too often.

jkkkk · #9 09-03-2005, 01:17 PM

Well I folded, I figured he might some Kx [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] combination, I can't think of a better line for this hand really, maybe checking the turn hoping he checks behind and then check-calling a reasonable bet from a missed draw.

beset7 · #10 09-04-2005, 02:53 AM

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Well I folded, I figured he might some Kx [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] combination, I can't think of a better line for this hand really, maybe checking the turn hoping he checks behind and then check-calling a reasonable bet from a missed draw.

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I like this line better.

Either that or fold the flop. Reverse implied odds could help justify it.

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