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2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
OK, this might look like I was trying to slowplay, but it's more of an "Ionno what to do." Somehow I want all my chips to go into the pot. On the flop, a pot-sized bet could scare off the action. So I check-raise, but I don't think I go enough. Then on the turn I manage to get all my money in (sloppy raises though) and I'm happy. Looks OK?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter MP3 (t800) CO (t770) Button (t820) SB (t785) BB (t800) UTG (t800) Hero (t800) UTG+2 (t800) MP1 (t825) MP2 (t800) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks. Flop: (t52.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t55</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t110</font>, Button calls t55. Turn: (t272.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: (t272.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: t272.50 Edit: converter misses this: on the turn I check hoping he hit an ace; he bets the pot, I double it, he pushes, I call. |
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
I like to lead when I flop a set, especially on a board that can have straight draws and (more importantly in this case) flush draws on it.
I hate hate hate hate hate check/miniraise, it's practically shouting to the universe "I have a monster!!!" |
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
I don't really love this line.
Check-minraise pretty much screams "stay in the hand, I've got a big one." I think I like betting out 1/2-2/3 pot, smoothcalling if you're raised, and check-raising the turn assuming it's a non scare card (in this case, it's a perfect card). If a scare card comes on the turn (another spade, something in the T-9-Q area), I bet out an amount that I can easily get away from, and fold if raised. Not sure this is the best line, but I think it's a line that conceals your hand a little better (at least until the turn C/R). |
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
Yeah, I wouldn't try and defend what I did at all; I was totally lost. Thanks to both of you, I'll never check minraise again, and I'll lead out on flopped sets.
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
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Yeah, I wouldn't try and defend what I did at all; I was totally lost. Thanks to both of you, I'll never check minraise again, and I'll lead out on flopped sets. [/ QUOTE ] There are situations where it is correct to check flopped sets, but this isn't one of them. A92 rainbow if you have two deuces is a decent time to check. |
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
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[ QUOTE ] Yeah, I wouldn't try and defend what I did at all; I was totally lost. Thanks to both of you, I'll never check minraise again, and I'll lead out on flopped sets. [/ QUOTE ] There are situations where it is correct to check flopped sets, but this isn't one of them. A92 rainbow if you have two deuces is a decent time to check. [/ QUOTE ] Is that because I'm worried and want to see the action, or because I'm trapping? If my example weren't suited, would it be ok to check? |
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Re: 2nd Hand of an $11, Flopped a Set: How Do I Get the Most Value?
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because I'm trapping [/ QUOTE ] Yes. The thing about the OP is that it's such a draw heavy board you don't know what to do if you check the flop, it checks around and the third spade hits, or a Q hits and then you start getting action... |
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