Can anyone make a strong case for Gitmo?

[elwoodblues]

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Why should they get trials? They were caught shooting at Americans, murdering civilians etc...

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Why would you think that (unless the "etc." includes a WHOLE lot of things unrelated to shooting Americans and murdering civilians)? Even if they were "caught" murdering civilians, we "catch" murderers all the time and still give them full and fair trials.

[trippin bily]

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Do even pose the question whether Gitmo should be closed you have to believe the news stories are credible.

[/ QUOTE ]It is not disputed that 100 prisoners have died in U.S. custody. It is not disputed that Gitmo has been open for 3 years and that prisoners have been held that long without any trial. It is not disputed that there has been abuse.

That alone is enough to disturb me greatly.

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I dispute that 100 prisoners have died in US custody.
Would you please provide your source ???

[HtotheNootch]

I'm sorry, I don't understand the debate.

If the debate's about keeping a base at GITMO, then I support the base.

If it's about torture, I don't like tortue. However, I do believe the times dictate the means....

[bholdr]

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To even pose the question whether Gitmo should be closed you have to believe the news stories are credible.

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why? that's a ridiclus statement, based on an implied assumption that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with our nation operating a secretive offshore prison and interrogation center with zero disclosure or oversight.

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Should these human debris be released so they can start killing again? Please! We need to take away ALL Korans the prisoners have at Gitmo. An act of kindness and respect is being used to attack the USA through blanted lies and propaganda. Take away they Korans and we take away one of their #1 propganda tool. By the way, this is a sterotype but it seems to me Muslims have the highest percentage of liars than any other culture. E.g. we have Muslims teaching their children that Jews kill Palestinian children and use their blood to make bread. Jeez. Those muslims have to be very stupid to tell that lie and even MORE stupid to believe it. Their lies about Korans being flushed does justice to their reputation as the worlds most prolific liars in the world....

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...because everyone that doesn't get in line and support unnecesarily draconian tactics in the war on terror must be liars that hate freedom, right felix? i can't believe how angry and acidic your posts have become.. fer god's sake, man.

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this is a sterotype but it seems to me Muslims have the highest percentage of liars than any other culture.

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that IS a stereotype, and a very revealing one. listen: go to hell, you bigoted k-hole.

[Felix_Nietsche]

go to hell, you bigoted k-hole.
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I concede that I am bigoted against the muslim 'CULTURE'.
I see little to respect. I find them a sick and decadent culture.

If all the children in the muslim world were removed from their parents and raised by normal people in a decent culture, the world would be a better place. As things go now, their children are raised in hate factories (they call them schools) where they learn that killing infidels is a good thing to do. Is it any surprise they grow up so twisted?

I noticed your were unable to address the issue where muslims teach their children that Jews kill Palestinian children and use their blood to make bread. And you call *ME* a bigot. LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[bholdr]

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I concede that I am bigoted against the muslim 'CULTURE'.
I see little to respect. I find them a sick and decadent culture.

If all the children in the muslim world were removed from their parents and raised by normal people in a decent culture, the world would be a better place. As things go now, their children are raised in hate factories (they call them schools) where they learn that killing infidels is a good thing to do. Is it any surprise they grow up so twisted?



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If all the children in the evangelical christian world were taken away from their parents and raised by nornal, rational people, the world would be a better place. As things go now, their children are raised in intolerance factories (they call them churches) where they learn that all muslims are bloodthirsty barbarians hell-bent on destroying freedom and jews, and their allies are the liberals, gays, and the french. Is it any suprise that You've grown up so twisted?

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I noticed your were unable to address the issue where muslims teach their children that Jews kill Palestinian children and use their blood to make bread. And you call *ME* a bigot. LOL

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link me, baby, and i will. (i'd also be intrested to know how many muslims you personally know and spend time with)

[Felix_Nietsche]

If all the children in the evangelical christian world were taken away from their parents and raised by nornal, rational people, the world would be a better place. As things go now, their children are raised in intolerance factories (they call them churches) where they learn that all muslims are bloodthirsty barbarians hell-bent on destroying freedom and jews, and their allies are the liberals, gays, and the french. Is it any suprise that You've grown up so twisted?
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I'm an atheist.

[jaxmike]

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As things go now, their children are raised in intolerance factories (they call them churches) where they learn that all muslims are bloodthirsty barbarians hell-bent on destroying freedom and jews, and their allies are the liberals, gays, and the french.

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I used to think you were an idiot. Now, I think idiot is no where near a strong enough word.

[publius]

I feel a deep and deliberate conviction that there are many cases in which the trial by jury is an ineligible one. I think it so particularly in cases which concern the public peace with foreign nations that is, in most cases where the question turns wholly on the laws of nations. Of this nature, among others, are all prize causes. Juries cannot be supposed competent to investigations that require a thorough knowledge of the laws and usages of nations; and they will sometimes be under the influence of impressions which will not suffer them to pay sufficient regard to those considerations of public policy which ought to guide their inquiries.

publius

[bholdr]

secret detentions, no jury trials, torture, abuse, no accountability... murder: 'ol Fidel must be staring wistfully at the american base and wondering why we've been criticizing his human rights record for all these years.

i personally cannot believe it's so called 'conservatives' that support all this nonsense.