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Old 05-13-2005, 11:50 PM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Lost...just... confused

CO is 9% raiser, 2.7 agro. My question is I'm assuming I'm behind on the flop, but the pot is big and whatever he holds I have outs. However I'm never sure whether or not these outs are good. On the flop my only clean out is a J, and on the turn he could have A10s or AJ...Let the flaming for this passive play begin.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:11 AM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: Lost...just... confused

what makes you think you're 100% behind on this flop.

htis isn't 15/30.

i can think of a ton of broadway/straight cards CO can have here that you have beat. namely any QJs type hand he'd raise 1 (obviously weak) limper with trying to buy the button. and he'd likely c'r a 3bet in order to gain some fold equity.

i think AT/KJ/QT are the only real hands here (maybe AQ) that you're behind that plays the way he did. i very often just call down here too though b/c that c'r says to me its a made and maybe drawing hand. if you 3bet you're likely going to be made to pay more than you need to to get to the showdown and then 2nd guess yourself.

BUT&lt; he does have a high ag factor which makes me want to raise tptk here either on the flop or the turn.

if he was less ag i'd say clal it down.

since he's 2.7, i'd raise the flop, call the cap and call it down from there.

-Barron
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:49 AM
Klepton Klepton is offline
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