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Re: Play this hand against me
Now you're confusing me. I was pretending to be the guy with QQ. If I think there is enough of a chance you are bluffing combined with my 22:1 to improve and I call the turn, if I miss on the river and you bet again... uh ... I fold.
I want KK to call. |
#12
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Now you're confusing me. I was pretending to be the guy with QQ. If I think there is enough of a chance you are bluffing combined with my 22:1 to improve and I call the turn, if I miss on the river and you bet again... uh ... I fold. I want KK to call. [/ QUOTE ] Okay, that's all I was asking. Also, the pot is not 22 bb on the turn, but there is certainly a chance I am raising for a free showdown. -James |
#13
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Re: Play this hand against me
I call initial turn raise and bet river.
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I call initial turn raise and bet river. [/ QUOTE ] And you pay off a raise? -James |
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Re: Play this hand against me
In this situation, ya.
You could be 3-betting way too many hands here preflop since the limper is terrible. Not to mention knowing too many plans on the river revolve around bet/fold to a raise. |
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[ QUOTE ] I call initial turn raise and bet river. [/ QUOTE ] And you pay off a raise? -James [/ QUOTE ] I call the turn raise (especailly with limper gone) and showdown cheaply. I really thought about three bet the turn then, bet the river (not the wisest move for obvious reasons, especially now knowing u 4 bet it -- which I would be hating.) -- but in reality I call your turn raise, check/call the river. |
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Okay, that's all I was asking. Also, the pot is not 22 bb on the turn, but there is certainly a chance I am raising for a free showdown. -James [/ QUOTE ] You three bet preflop, I imagine because of loose UTG. Call flop. Come out on the turn. Set? I dont think ud want a free showdown, would u? (river play is what I need work on) -- if u wanted a cheap showdown, why not call his turn raise, then call the river? Are u hoping to take the hand. (be gently with me here, sorry) |
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Also, the pot is not 22 bb on the turn, but there is certainly a chance I am raising for a free showdown. -James [/ QUOTE ] No. What I meant was if I am behind (which is most likely) then I am 22:1 to improve. Against an unknown or a fish or something then it is an easy call down. In the scenario described though, I know who you are, and have to think either you are trying to bluff me completely, or you think I am trying to bluff you completely, or you just have me beat, or I am depending on the very thin chance you have JJ. If I don't improve on the river, and you bet again after I called your turn raise, and I know you know I know the aproximate percentage of times you will be bluffing, QQ is in very rough shape. |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Also, the pot is not 22 bb on the turn, but there is certainly a chance I am raising for a free showdown. -James [/ QUOTE ] No. What I meant was if I am behind (which is most likely) then I am 22:1 to improve. Against an unknown or a fish or something then it is an easy call down. In the scenario described though, I know who you are, and have to think either you are trying to bluff me completely, or you think I am trying to bluff you completely, or you just have me beat, or I am depending on the very thin chance you have JJ. If I don't improve on the river, and you bet again after I called your turn raise, and I know you know I know the aproximate percentage of times you will be bluffing, QQ is in very rough shape. [/ QUOTE ] Sounds about right to me. |
#20
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Re: Play this hand against me
Again, it shouldn't matter if i fold or call.
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