Interesting HU 100-200 hand

[grandgnu]

Geesh, get a load of this guy. $400 per hour? Are you fricken crazy man!?

Regardless of whether you are a winning 100/200 player, here's the thing: You lack a key poker trait: being humble.

This is purely based upon your posts in this thread, and thus I have no other data to back up this observation.

I recently happened upon an epiphany in my own play (and I'm not even close to a 15/30 player, right now just fiddling around with $100 or less buy-in multi-table tourneys)

I realized that whether I suffer a bad beat or just get outdrawn, run into a monster hand when I have a strong one myself, or whether I win a big pot or I'm chip leader.....I cannot allow the emotions to control me.

The ups and downs can certainly affect ones play tremendously. Maybe because I'm risking less money it's easier for me, but I figure with your bankroll the losses and wins are relative to my own.

If I beat my opponents, I will not gloat. If they beat me, I will not throw a temper tantrum. If my flopped set gets beat by runner-runner on one of the worst plays of the century, I will move on. I am Zen, and I will play a balanced and strong game of poker, and in the long run, I shall win more than I lose.

Your style of hubris, I feel, can only hurt your game. It appears to me that you are not in control of your emotions as much as one could be. Phil Hellmuth is an amazing poker player, but his instability, his ego, reduce his winnings.

I would much rather be an unknown player who makes a nice profit, than a well-known player who has reduced his earnings because he cannot control his emotions.

As others have said, you are virtually an unknown here, and I did not see the post where you offered lessons at such a high price. Given your ego (as I see it) I cannot see you as being as strong and balanced teacher as I would want.

I believe there are better ways for people to spend 4 grand.

[Stork]

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Regardless of whether you are a winning 100/200 player, here's the thing: You lack a key poker trait: being humble.

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I'm sure David Sklansky might argue that being a 'key poker trait'.

And I've read some of Shawn Keller's threads here, and in none of them does it appear that he lets his emotions get the best on him, go on a temper tantrum when he is outdrawn, or gloat when he wins. Obviously he considers himself a good player, so what? Of course, I would never pay $4000 for 10 hours of lessons either, but that's another matter...

[grandgnu]

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Regardless of whether you are a winning 100/200 player, here's the thing: You lack a key poker trait: being humble.

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I'm sure David Sklansky might argue that being a 'key poker trait'.

And I've read some of Shawn Keller's threads here, and in none of them does it appear that he lets his emotions get the best on him, go on a temper tantrum when he is outdrawn, or gloat when he wins. Obviously he considers himself a good player, so what? Of course, I would never pay $4000 for 10 hours of lessons either, but that's another matter...

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A player who is not humble, in my opinion, is more likely to hoot and holler when they win a big hand, and to whine like Hellmuth when they receive a bad beat.

Yes, I know these type of swings can affect all players, but I feel that when someone jumps around pumping their fist and screaming like a crazed madman, that they are not as strong a player as they could be. Their potential would be greater, if they could control these emotional swings. If a person is prone to bouts of extreme excitement over a win, they'll also likely be prone to extreme bouts of depression over a loss. Neither I feel is conducive to maximizing profits

[Ulysses]

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can you please stop posting hands that have your opponents names in them. its rude.

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FWIW, in a lot of these games, it is very tough to discuss the hands intelligently without knowing who the opponents are.

[BabyJesus]

I have two students I'm working with now that are almost ready to go pro, neither of them had ever played poker when I started teaching them but they were magic the gathering players.

Half true. I know one of them played before for sure. He told me about a 3/6 hand where he misclicked folding quad kings.

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Naphand you seemed pretty upset and a bit quick to jump to judgement on me.

I have in no way shape or form backed down from playing daryn headsup. Keep in mind some of us aren't glued to the computer, just because I don't check the forum for 24 hours doesn't mean anything, I have a lot of responsiblities at this time. I could give several references but I don't feel comfortable doing that without there expressed permission first and probably not in this public forum.

Please understand sir that I'm not desperately out there trying to make an easy couple thousand "teaching" poker. I actually enjoy teaching people who really want to learn, I find it somewhat fulfilling. However I couldn't see myself eaching more than one student a month, since it is mentally exhausting. I will say that I probably have as much if not more experience teaching at the 15-30 limit level online than almost anyone else in the world.

PM if you are seriously interested I'll probably need at least a 30 days now advanced notice. I have two students I'm working with now that are almost ready to go pro, neither of them had ever played poker when I started teaching them but they were magic the gathering players. I haven't taught anyone from 2+2 yet so if I do teach one of you regulars you could always report back on the quality of service to the rest of the group. Also I'm gonna try to post at least one hand a week, probably some from the 15-30 limit, and I'll break it down for you like how I would if we were working together.

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

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[bholdr]

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How much does David Sklansky charge for lessons, per hour?
I thought it was around the 300$ marker.

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sounds like a much better deal. Lightning, you're being undercut by the competition...

[theBruiser500]

"shawn-

can you please stop posting hands that have your opponents names in them. its rude."

Shawn, ignore subline he is stupid and wrong.

[cero_z]

Hi Stork,

I guess my smiley face icon was still not enough to tip you off to the joke. Damn it; I actually brought myself to use one of those frickin' things, and it fails to convey my tone properly.

Anyway, it's obviously nitpicky to worry about grammar/spelling in a forum like this, but it cracks me up when people who obviously think they're very smart make elementary mistakes like this over and over. Sklansky and Malmuth are among the most frequent culprits--Mason, I officially revoke your comma and semicolon privileges.

[riverboatking]

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lol I'll win $1 off you for everypost you ever made on this website whats your handle on PS? You got 6k on there bro put that glimmer in play or don't be runnin your mouth.

Chickenlittl

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ok fair enough.

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I don't doubt that Daryn is a solid player if he is willing to play me headsup 15-30. I'm ambivalent about playing him at any those stakes because as a true professional I look for weak opponents not opponents I assume to be skilled. I don't play poker to "beat the best" or prove that I'm the best, I play poker to make money and I like to play against weak competition. I don't have an big ego like some certain plays I just smile and take the money. Only when someone talks badly about my game do I challenge them, and yes you are correct I assumed he wouldn't accept but I really don't think I should be expected to play him that low stakes,

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weak sauce.
offer a challenge then provide some lame ass excuse when it gets accepted.
i notice there was no mention of limits in the intial challenge.

you are a joke.

[naphand]

I am glad you contributed Ikke, as I know from previous posts you play at this limit and was thinking yesterday if you had anything to say on this individual.