Interesting HU 100-200 hand

[RunDownHouse]

I don't understand why you're getting so upset and personally involved in this, Naphand. This guy is obviously an idiot, and anyone who would pay him thousands of dollars isn't too bright either. A fool and his money, as the eldest among us would say, and I don't see any need to keep bumping this thread to the top.

If you're really that concerned about others getting scammed, start a PM campaign to a mod to get him banned. But let's let it die here, ok?

[naphand]

I am not upset, but I get the impression that there a quite a few forum users gullible enough to take this guy seriously, so I posted to draw attention to the shortcomings of what is on offer. Benjamins response should be evidence enough of how accepting people can be... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

But yes, it can die now.

[daryn]

i understand how it is. i probably wouldn't play someone who challenged me at .50/1 stakes, and this guy is clearly a high roller.

for another interesting hand, check out my recent post in this forum.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]-daryn

[stinkypete]

why would anyone pay you $400 an hour to do something you're going to do anyway?

and what is it that makes you worth $100 per hour more than 5 days ago ?

[Shawn Keller]

Someday I hope you haters (who may not have $2000 to your name) will realize that how good a deal my offer to the RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT SITUATION. This would mean someone who wanted to be a PROFESSIONAL texas holdem player, at at least the 15-30 limits. Also clearly the person should have some experience playing limit THE at least at the 3-6 level before they would want me to train them. Also they should have read Feeney's "inside the poker mind" and THFAP.

one more thing to keep in mind is that $2000 is a good session at the 15-30 levels, its a medium large size pot at the $100-$200 , and at $400-$800 well its 2.5 big bets. The impact that a 10 hour work session with me could have on one of my students could be tremendous 100+ times the $4000 cost if it helps them significantly towards becoming a long time professional.

Best of luck!

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[helpmeout]

Only a mug is going to pay huge amounts of money to get coaching from a nobody.

If I want coaching I'd pay a known professional half what you charge.

Nothing personal but you are just another kid with a big ego.

[ctv1116]

I'm sorry but it sounds like you're scared to lose. Let's say you wanted to play daryn in a $3000 freezeout (100BB). I'd estimate you could probably finish him off in about 5 hours. That's $600/hour. That would be more than the $400/hour or whatever you're charging for private lessons.

Oh, and you're refusal to play because the "stakes aren't high enough" sounds a lot like this letter. And daryn's response sounds a lot like Doyle Brunson's response. But that's just me.

[naphand]

Not everybody is a "hater", some have concerns. You may be a world class player, I don't know, some question this and others support the notion. I reserve opinion on it. However, in order to be able to make such an offer you must not only be a great player but a good teacher, and for the fees you charge a highly professional service would be expected, along with some kind of support/guarantee. Of course "guarantee" is a big word and can mean many things, it does not have to mean a financial bond. You are also almost completely unknown on these boards. Many perhaps resent the idea that you appear to be making your posts not to discuss or stimulate, but merely to promote your services. This is a fraudulent use of the forum, and rightly deserves condemnation, if true.

We all know you do not have to be very good at prose to write book on poker, at least with the market as it stands now, you don't even have to be very good at poker. While it may not be necessary to behave professionally, with dignity and respect for others, challenges couched in such phrases as "You got 6k on there bro put that glimmer in play or don't be runnin your mouth." do not exactly inspire confidence in your teaching ability/professionalism. It sounds like you have something to prove.

You must have known when you challenged Daryn that he would not accept at the limits you currently play at, so your subsequent refusal makes you look fake. I would have thought playing a HU game against one of the Forums stronger HU players would be an excellent marketing opportunity, at the very least a chance to establish your credentials. You even talk in your recent post to those playing the $15/$30 game, and you must be aware that jumping up to high limits on a reduced bankroll is stupid. There is no way Daryn does this and you know it; your challenge looks disingenuous. Set a match and play a certain number of hands, enough so that you get to discuss hands on the Forum, to showcase yourself and you gain far more credibility than jumping into the forum and posting hands as an unknown, you could easily be a fake.

I am not saying you are a fake, I don't know, but where large sums of money are involved, professionalism and qualifications count. Maybe people still think the poker world is just a wild west shootout, and financial standards do not apply. This is wrong thinking IMO; set high standards and earn respect. Just because you play at $100/$200 does not entitle you to claim to be able to turn $3/$6 players into lifetime pros. Treat this forum with respect.

[Michael Davis]

I think this is one of the best posts I've ever read.

-Michael

[fsuplayer]

I second that.

oh...and keller still sucks.