oh my

[Clarkmeister]

I'd never fold this flop for one bet in a million years unless I knew the player like the back of my hand. But everyone who knows me already knew that. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Michael J. Sykes]

Hi Rick!

[ QUOTE ]
BB non fish has to virtually know you can't have a flush given no flop raise...

[/ QUOTE ]

If this is true, then a good player could achieve excellent deception by smooth-calling with a flush draw in this situation, often resulting in extra action when he hits a flush on the big bet streets. Therefore, I wonder how big of an error you think it would be to just call with a flush draw in this situation? [Against an aggressive early bettor who is apt to fire again on the turn, I doubt it is an error.] How unusual do you think it would be for good players to smooth-call on the flop with a flush draw in this situation?

-MJS

[Michael J. Sykes]

I agree with Rick that your hand is a fold on the flop, though I'm not sure it is not a close decision.

If I called and was check-raised on the turn as you were, I would be inclined to payoff. The reason is that I find BB's check-raise to be suspicious. Why would he risk a free river card by checking with a hand that beats AQ? If he was so strong that he did not fear a free card, why wouldn't he bet out to keep the cutoff in and perhaps have an opportunity to three-bet? I would suspect that BB has an inferior pair with a draw, in which case his check-raise could clean-up some outs and possibly cause a superior hand to fold (or protect what could still be the best hand from his point of view). Perhaps I am just too suspicious!

-MJS

[GuyOnTilt]

I'd never fold this flop for one bet in a million years unless I knew the player like the back of my hand.

I'm the exact opposite.

But everyone who knows me already knew that.

Me too. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

GoT