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Old 07-16-2004, 10:57 AM
Just The Facts Just The Facts is offline
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Default Re: ZERORAKE UPDATE

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There's another site that just went live and has been discussed a lot this week, that being fulltiltpoker.com. There have been some interesting discussions about the pros who play there, the lack of a deposit bonus as yet, and other topics along these lines. Despite your belief that this board is full of nothing but Party/Empire affiliates who can't bear the thought of another site succeeding and taking money out of their pocket, there hasn't been any rash of posts ragging on fulltilt and making fun of it, at least not that I've seen.

The difference, as I see it, is that the people who like fulltiltpoker and want it to succeed haven't been behaving like combative twats on this message board.

Personally, I wouldn't even know how to become an affiliate, so you can aim your ad hominem attacks elsewhere. I'm just pointing out what should be self-evident, that acting like an ass while talking up a site is not the best way to win friends, or support for that site.

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This is an excellent post for many reasons. Most importantly, it illustrates the difference between the launch of two new sites. Full Tilt has the most impressive lineup of celebrity endorsers that internet poker has ever seen, yet the threads have been normal in their frequency and content.

Zero Rake has Zero players and a dubious ownership trail, yet elicited a hundreds threads and hundreds of responses from posters that have never been seen again. For Zero Rake to claim that spamming the forums was not part of the marketing plan is a major lie. The interest in Full Tilt should have created exponentially more posts and responses, but instead it got fractional amounts.

Several posters have claimed they would have played Zero Rake if the spam machine had not insulted them with the frequency of new threads. In that sense, the people who were discharged to promote this site are actually the ones to blame for the opening failures and likely long-term failure. Whether it is a crooked site or not (ala Pro Poker) is yet to be determined. What is alreay decided is that this was the worst marketing launch idea in the history of Internet Poker.

Lastly, the comments regarding the owners of Zero rake not caring because 2+2 is visited only by 2% of the real money players is laughable. The actual percent is much lower. Also, believe it or not, the spam placed here paled in comparison to the spam at rec.poker. Acting like this is the only place the site was spammed to the ground is another insult to our intelligence.
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