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Old 05-31-2004, 11:36 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Default Re: NYT -- Feds seize Paradise cash

paradise will get this money back.

if they do not, then it is $3.2 mil gone in a company that can afford the loss. i'm sure they are not happy with this, but obviously this has been ongoing for months. point is that nothing has changed just because this was finally made public.

it does not change anything regarding the legality of the end user. it is a dispute between paradise and discovery and the us govt. it is perfectly normal in situations like this, and paradise is not the only one that gave money for commercials and has not received it back.

the us govt. seizes assets all the time and in 95% of the cases, it is returned to the rightful owner. only money from illegal drug sales, gun trading and other nasties like that never make it back to the owners. rest assure that stars and party pre-paid for ads that did not run, and that discovery turned that money over to DOJ as well. We are reading about this because paradise lawyers are trying to get their money back. this is what brought this info from the courtroom to the newsroom.

in june, the govt said to stop running the ads. in october paradise paid for ads because discovery was still accepting them. discovery is the scumbags here, not paradise. paradise was simply availing themselves of the offer for ad space that was still being sold even though discovery should have ceased their sales if they felt it was not legal. discovery has lawyers too and i can assure that they took the money because the lawyers said it was ok. paradise did their due dilligence and bought the ad space because this US company said "hi paradise, wanna buy some commercials? we know they may not air, and we will give you your money back if they don't, but we think you will be fine"..

enter ashcroft and his inability to separate true evil from constitutional protection, and we got one fuked up situation right now. when will this administration start concentrating on armoring humvee's faulty shells so less soldiers will die, and stop worrying about poker and pornography? is it the failures they are having with the war that make them concentrate on this st00pid domestic [censored] to cover up and draw attention away from the REAL problems like WTF are we doing in iraq?
(btw, an administration change in november will solve all of this bullshit. remember that if you are undecided poker player)

this seems to indicate that the gaming people feel they can win this (or at least work around it). changes will be made to try and beat the laws regarding commercials. the sites will win, or the sites will lose. it won't affect the legality of playing poker online. let's not mix the issues.

perhaps there won't be anymore gaming ads in the US, perhaps there will. even THAT is not relevant to this story. this story is about an overseas company trying to recoup money paid for commercials that never ran. there is no more to this, no less to it. as i said, it is also old news to the parties involved. only the fact that it is time to make the case for getting their money back is the reason this story was written.

don't get me wrong, i appreciate the reprint, and think the discussion is great. however, it is not like anything happened yesterday that made the state of online poker different. only the article was written, nothing else has changed.

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