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Old 04-09-2004, 01:20 PM
DocHollyday DocHollyday is offline
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Default A debatable play?

Hi guys,

My brother and pokerbrother just had a dispute about a hand he played, which he thinks is allright, but of which I think it has negative EV.

He is in the big blind with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

As usual in our local 20/40$ game there are lots of players who play the any two can win style, so it were 6 limpers and the button raised. Flatcalled by everyone, but the SB. So 8 players to the flop:

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Checked to the raiser who bet. My bro called and so did everyone else.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to the initial raiser who bets again, my bro check-raises, three call, intial raiser mucks. Last one blanks, he bets, everyone folds.

Ok, his thinking was, that if he spikes a four he will get a good pot and that the odds more or less justify the flop call with that many players.

I think that it was a bad play (although I like that he won [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), because the board was that coordinated and despite getting a four, there are just too many redraws possible to make this appropriate.

Your opinions??
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