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Old 11-23-2003, 03:31 PM
Billman Billman is offline
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Default Are these guys cheating?

I'm fairly new to online poker and usually play HE at the lower limit tables and tournements while I figure things out. I've started to notice that certain players ALWAYS take forever to make a call on their first two cards. It doesn't seem to be a hesitation issue as far as I can tell by what they eventually have in their hands . . . rather it shouldn't be a hesitation issue because the hand seems fairly obvious in how to play it. Also, I'm not talking about a player who's a little slower than the rest, this is when they get the little warning from the dealer that they have 13 (or 10 or whatever) seconds to respond. This happens every hand even when one or more players before them also got the 13 second warning. So by the time the bet gets to them (with no raises) in late position they've already had 45 seconds to over a minute to think about their hand.

So the question is: How likely is it that these guys are either getting coaching help (or they're thumbing through some book) or using some sort of software that helps them calculate the odds on their hand? Does such a software package exist and would it even be ethical to use one if it did?

Just curious,

Bill

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