More outs than Spicymoose has excuses? Help me count!

[POKhER]

Well i dont think a ten or ace will win it for us, so if they call i'd be check/calling or folding if 2back to me(if things kick off).

If a jack falls i'll C/r the river but as this is the case i'm folding because we don't have outs/odds to continue and even if you can get us to 4outs or so, They're not outs if we lose when hitting them [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

PETER - we're not drawing dead to AJ, we have 3outs to split.