Laying Down KK preflop?

[J Chap]

I understand the "not-at-these-stakes" argument (most people at these stakes, ToyBux, just generally overplay hands, even many of the weak-tight players. if they didn't, they'd have built up enough bankroll to play in higher stakes games).

what i don't understand is the "rarely do i ever fold KK preflop in any scenario at any stakes" argument. granted, i'm not good enough to lay them down when I should. Still, if i think there's a 50% chance of me being a 20/80 dog, I should be able to say, "i don't like the way this hand feels. if he's doing this with QQ, I'll get his donk-dollars soon enough."

In a live cash game just last night, I heckled my friend as he mucked his KK preflop. The fact of the matter was, he had raised, and then another guy raised him, and then another guy went all-in. He said, "man, I have a serious hand, guys." Then he mucked it. The next guy folded his QQ, and the all-in guy revealed his AA.

Some people just like to wait for spots when they really feel like they are best, AND when at least 5/7 of their hand has been dealt to them.

Just to reiterate one more time, I am not these people, and I am currently unable to lay down KK preflop. However, I think I would be a better player if, in some VERY RARE, heartbreaking situations, I could lay them down.

Hell, this guy with the KK in the live game was ready to lay his down to the QQ reraiser, even before the AA all-in.

wow, are you still reading? sheesh, thanks!

j chap