What I thought was a great flop became a difficult flop decision

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Fold. Live to fight another day.
"The better part of valor is discretion", Shakespeare.

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There are always better spots when you don't have the nuts. We are trying to figure out if this is a +EV spot, even if it is marginal. Look at the numbers and look at what we fear. Hand ranges and numbers have also been posted. Factor in the money already in the pot. Its close.

Also, "live to fight another day" = pass up on +EV spots in cash games if they are marginal? No, ill take my marginal +EV spots along with my not-so-marginal ones, thank you [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] (Not claiming this is +EV as I said in my original post, thats what this debate was trying to figure out, I'm saying its close)