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Old 12-02-2005, 01:44 PM
fyodor fyodor is offline
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Default Re: Call with garbage?

Thank you for taking the time to post such an extensive reply. I hadn't run the numbers myself and actually thought 94o was a bigger dog than that.

Again I was not advocating calling with 94o in that spot when I replied to mts. I did fold it.

What upset me about his reply was the black and white mentality that if you don't have an immediate equity edge the hand should be turbo mucked. Given your numbers it is apparent, according to mts's advice, that I should muck every concievable hand I could be dealt except the other AA.

I am already in Harrington's "red zone". After posting SB next hand I have 3.3 times the blinds. There is no monetary incentive to stick around for a few more hands. Pretty much everyone at the table is going to have me more than adequately covered. I laid out all this info not just to make my original post as long as possible.

Maybe more people need to read Harrington's chapter from Vol. 1 titled "What is a Hand?"

My opinion on this situation is that any hand with 20% is an autocall and anything with 15% should be given serious consideration. 64o is 15%. I am pretty certain I would have called with a one gapper without even knowing the numbers.

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ah 566242 52.14 516544 47.56 3222 0.30 0.522
Ks Kc 186906 17.21 895880 82.49 3222 0.30 0.173
Qc Qd 162997 15.01 919789 84.69 3222 0.30 0.151
4d 6h 166641 15.34 916145 84.36 3222 0.30 0.154

94o at 10% is at least worth thinking about getting 3.6:1 and an opportunity to go from red zone to yellow zone. Dismissing all hands except AA is downright stupid.
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