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Old 11-18-2005, 11:49 PM
meditate89 meditate89 is offline
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Default Calling raises early on with PP to hit sets?

22$ game
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Dodgerdugout ( $863 )
Seat 2: CAL2003 ( $947 )
Seat 3: Super_loong ( $755 )
Seat 4: jmucardshark ( $800 )
Seat 5: gthockey6 ( $905 )
Seat 6: jasapistor ( $745 )
Seat 7: jpgumm ( $730 )
Seat 8: LongDrive317 ( $700 )
Seat 9: HERO ( $800 )
Seat 10: primerib ( $755 )
Trny:17531817 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6h 6c ]
primerib folds.
Dodgerdugout folds.
CAL2003 calls [15].
Super_loong raises [65].
jmucardshark calls [65].
gthockey6 folds.
jasapistor calls [65].
jpgumm calls [65].
LongDrive317 calls [55].
HERO calls [50].
CAL2003 calls [50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Qs, Qh ]
LongDrive317 checks.
HERO checks.
CAL2003 bets [15].
Super_loong calls [15].
jmucardshark calls [15].
jasapistor calls [15].
jpgumm raises [100].
LongDrive317 folds.
HERO folds.
CAL2003 calls [85].
Super_loong calls [85].
jmucardshark calls [85].
jasapistor folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
CAL2003 is all-In [782]
Super_loong is all-In [590]
jmucardshark folds.
jpgumm folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
CAL2003 shows [ Qc, Jd ] a full house, Queens full of jacks.
Super_loong shows [ Ks, Qd ] three of a kind, queens.
CAL2003 wins 192 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Queens full of jacks.
CAL2003 wins 2050 chips from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of jacks.
Super_loong finished in tenth place.
Super_loong has left the table.

Maybe I'm just mad because I haven't been hitting many sets lately, but it seems like I frequently end up making a call like this for set value and then finding myself a little bit more shortstacked than usual... and If I make two calls like this and I'm card dead until level 4 I tend to be kind of desperate when it comes time to steal. People who get mixed up in raised pots with QJo tend to be hard to steal from too.

So should I not be calling here with 66? What if the hand after this hand someone raises to 65 and 3 people call before me... should I call? How many people do you need to be in to call a raise to say 65 or 75 for set value, assuming they will probably pay you off well if they hit top pair?

PS: Ironically I'm on the bubble right now(at level 3), and the QJ guy is on my right. I'm very scared to push into him (not that i need to at level 3)
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