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Old 11-02-2005, 07:47 PM
gambledrum gambledrum is offline
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Default Is It Possible To Win A Tight Hold \'em Game, Theoretically?

Can a good player expect to win when playing ultra-tight tables?

I'm a micro-small stakes hold 'em player. I decided a few months to start playing online, basically to play more hands per hour. I play anywhere from 0.25-50 to 1-2, for the most part. I've noticed an immense difference between B&M low stakes (in South Florida were restricted to 1-2 hold 'em) and online low stakes. Basically, the online players I'm running into tend to be much tighter than the B&M rooms. I'm currently playing at Royal Vegas Poker. Three to five players to the flop is the rule. Many times the blinds are folded by a raise. Keep in mind, I'm talking about 0.50-1 hold 'em. This is a complete contrast from playing 1-2 in the B&M rooms, where 7-9 players are the norm, and you almost never see blinds folding, even after multiple raises. So, there's a large difference between the pot sizes I've seen online and in person.

Miller states in SSH:
"If your opponents all played "perfect" poker, you could not possibly win in the long run. He goes on to say, "In fact, if you play in a casino or any place that takes a collection or rake, you would be doomed to lose as surely as if you played craps, roulette, or keno." Furthermore, he says, "Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you might just go broke."

I often heard that you can expect to make 2 big bets per 100 hands, if you’re a good player. I’ve also heard that you could expect to make much more in ultra-loose games. But, what about ultra-tight games, with tricky players? Does the 2BB/100 hands scenario hold up? What is the proper sample size of hands to test your win rate on?

Essentially, I wondering if you can theoretically win a very tight game. Or, is it essential for the game to be somewhat loose to make money? Maybe I’m playing at the wrong website. Average pot sizes for a ten person 0.25-0.50 table are $2-3, at Royal Vegas Poker. But, when I check other sites, the average pot size tends to be larger ($3-4).

Basically, the way I see it, I’m having a harder time making money online because the pot sizes are small. When I hit, the pot isn’t nearly as big a B&M room, but when I miss, drawing odds are terrible.

Any insight?
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