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Re: Government\'s role in our society
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BCPVP's argument is better when it comes to justice and the police force. Having justice and the police force on sale to those who buy it sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Would corrupt arbitrators have any credibility? Of course not. Only in a state-dominated monopoly justice system can corruption flourish. [ QUOTE ] Plus, to have a true justice system, everyone needs to buy into it and have a say as to the punishments and the crimes, and this is pure government. [/ QUOTE ] You don't need government for this. Reasonable people can agree that unprovoked force and fraud are undesirable. [ QUOTE ] If Murder should be outlawed, and I think we can safely say it should, someone needs to uphold it without getting paid money from an individual to investigate it, for it is in the public good. [/ QUOTE ] What difference does it make where the money comes from as long as the crime is investigated and prosecuted? There are more ways to fund private enforcement than just a pay-per-case basis. [ QUOTE ] Also, there are many crimes, like extortion and slavery that take place without a complaintant. Without a public police force, these would never be investigated. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Wow. A slave has no complaint? Come on. This doesn't require much imagination. [ QUOTE ] I am saying that without government, we would not have interstate highways right now. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. We'd have something better, more efficient, not paid for with stolen funds. [ QUOTE ] Government can do it more easily because it has the wide range of funds and support necessary to build a road, and will not extort people to drive on these roads. [/ QUOTE ] Government does it more easily because it uses force. Does that ease excuse the violence? How would private road owners "extort people to drive"? [ QUOTE ] When a single combined effort is more efficient than many individual efforts, government should be used. [/ QUOTE ] Even if it's coercive? It doesn't matter, because no scenario exists where centrally-planned effort will outperfrom market effort. [ QUOTE ] Space exploration is a very interesting case. While you would rather have many individual efforts, space exploration costs a lot of money, and there's no profit at the end of it. [/ QUOTE ] If there's no profit, why is it worth doing? [ QUOTE ] Once the private sector becomes interested enough in space exploration, the government can start pulling out. [/ QUOTE ] Why should the government be in it before such point where private parties are interested? [ QUOTE ] But right now, one of the very few organizations that is interested enough and has the funds to support space exploration and research is the government. [/ QUOTE ] Again, those funds are ill-gotten. If the benefit is enough to justify the theft of the funds, surely a private party could pursue it profitably without government intervention. |
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