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Old 10-18-2005, 12:09 PM
Macedon Macedon is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed, but where?

Here's a great link from a player who plays the way I've described:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...art=2&vc=1

And a post by Soah:
"in limped pots I am much more likely to raise the flop with an obvious draw. If I just call it will be easy to put me on a hand so I get no value when I hit. And in a family pot people will bet their top pair with an 'ok' kicker for protection and see a raise as a big show of strength, and not just a move.

If I've called a preflop raise heads up my opponent is less likely to put me on a draw when I call the flop, so I still have a chance to get paid a bit if I hit. And people who raised preflop will frequently have hands like overpairs that they don't want to fold, and they don't think I will need a big hand to raise them on the flop. So I'm merely putting in additional money as an underdog.

But the main "flaw" with my strategy is that it is tailored to exploit a specific error that many players make -- they play their cards preflop (raising), and they play their cards on the turn (either checking or betting), but on the flop they always bet regardless of their hand strength. A wise man once said that the way to win NL poker is to keep the pot small until you've figured out what everyone has. Since I gain no new information about their hand strength on the flop, I take the action which keeps the pot smallest until I can use the turn action to get a better read on them.

...another part of me just gets pissed off when I raise the flop with nut outs and some clown shoves it all-in with AA and I'm priced out."

So I guess a good counter strategy to these players is to go all-in pre-flop or on the flop OR keep the pot small and call it down. But I still wonder if that is good poker when you have a draw heavy board.
(Yes, I'm trying to answer my own post)
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