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Old 10-03-2005, 02:04 AM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 KK

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I don't see how the ace changes much.

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I agree with this and think that, given the probability that one of your opponents does not hold an ace, you probably have effective odds for a call down. And in what Party 15 game does a flop 3-bet mean better than top pair? I would estimate it to mean that about 10% of the time.

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you misread the action, we are not talking about a 3bet here, we are talking about a check/3bet for value play. There is a big difference.

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Agreed, there is a difference. But I don't think there is a reasonable range of hands for EP1 that shows our Hero is anywhere near a 7:1 dog here (on the Turn). Easy call down IMO.

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against the typical opponent this is an easy fold imo. This action will almost always mean a set. Against a loose agg or crazy guy this is an easy call down.

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Do you think it is reasonably likely a set would c/r this turn to charge EP2 (who appears to be on a draw) the maximum? This factor is what swings me to a call down.
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