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You don't always have the best hand on the turn.

There's a flush draw out, gutshots, and perhaps an oesd.

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Are some of these folding for 1 sb on the flop? If we suddenly think we are behind on the turn we have the option not to raise. Equity is equity. I'm giving up something like 60% of the flop bets for 80% of the turn bets on 85% of the turn boards. I might slow down on the bad 15% but even then I have a great redraw.

Sets are all about putting as much money in the pot. It's rare that you really have to worry about hand protection with a set.

Krishan - 60

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**To observers-Me and Krishan are arguing about button's play if he held JJ, not MoDoh's QT in the CO, just to be clear.**

Going a little off course here, if you were button and had JJ, you aren't raising CO's flop bet immediately?

Also, back on course,
I did get confused on our position (forgot we were button) a little bit with this HH format, I wouldn't have said to 3-bet the flop when it comes back if I had seen the hand in a replayer.

I still would never play jacks like that in a large multiway pot with a couple draws on board. I'm raising the first flop bet. I think allowing only 1 bet on this flop is a terrible mistake.

I agree if I happened to misclick by calling the first bet, waiting till the turn is better for the reasons you stated.