Four Possibilities For Our Universes' Existence

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God isn't an answer -- at least in scientific matters

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If science is the search for truth, and you rule out a cause before it has a chance to speak simply because you think it's "superfoulus" what's that? We shouldn't prejudge just because we don't like it.

We've come to accept the definition of science that excludes design as a scientific explanation. When we recognize the effects of inteligence in so many other areas of reasoning.

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I'm not ruling out intelligent design as a cause because I don't like it -- you aren't much of a scientist, or thinker, if you do things like that -- I'm ruling it out because it's not a testable hypothesis and has no scientific value. Scientifically, it makes just as much sense to assert that a purple unicorn designed the universe as it is god. Untestable and nonfalsifiable theories have no place in science.

Let's say I'm studying how gravity works between planets. Can you think of any time where making the assertion that God created the universe will have scientific value? The observed phenomena stays the same regardless of whether God or the purple unicorn made it that way. Imagine any type of research a scientist may be conducting and give me an example of when accepting ID or even the concept of God as a premise has any value to the hypothetical research.

As to your last point, I'm not sure what other areas of reason you are referencing.