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Old 09-09-2005, 10:40 AM
DaveduFresne DaveduFresne is offline
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Default Re: Cowboys Out Of Position, Scary Board

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I am still completely confused why he checked the flop.

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Why does his flop check confuse you so much? I think your flop check was much worse than his flop check (regardless of how it turned out) After you fail to cb, why would he fire at the pot when he's likely got you drawing to 2 outs and could extract more from you later? If you don't spike your king, he makes more off you by checking the flop than betting it.

FWIW I think his turn raise is a bit suspect, but I guess it does force you to give up your equity if you have TT-QQ with a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. However, if you were slowplaying AA on the flop he's spewing, and if you have KK being weak, you just caught up.

KoW

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Yeah just to add to this, I really don't see how position is relevant in checking the flop here. If he's at all tricky you learnt nothing about what he has, but he likely learnt a lot about what you have.

If you thnk he can somehow sniff out that the ace hurt you (which I don't see how if you keep your bet sizes consistant) then having position on him isn't going to help you either because he might just check to you and either go for the checkraise or smoothcall.

Betting the flop gives three possibilities: he'll either fold and give you credit for ak or aces (unlikely with what he had) be somewhat concerned about his kicker and smoothcall, or raise you.

A raise or fold most likely gives you the info you need, and a smoothcall if he's not a calling station likely helps too...(in this board I woulld either give him credit for the ace or at least a flush draw) and if a non king flush card came, I'd probably be done with it.
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