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Old 08-30-2005, 03:59 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: am i PC\'ed here?

No, getting allin against the shorty is -EV, you're looking at it the wrong way.

Lets say the shorty has a hand like K9s. When it gets to you in the CO, if you just fold your EV is 0. If you raise, he decides to push because he is so short and he has a decent hand against an LP raiser, so he pushes and you are of course going to call.

However, you knew that you would call any allin from the shorty, so you really are investing the whole 435 chips to begin with even though you only bet 150. The only difference is the amount you lose when a bigger stack raises you.

Just because it's +EV to call once the initial raise is in, it doesn't mean it's +EV to get allin against the shortstack when he has the decision whether he does or not and you have no money in the pot.

Too often you are risking 435 to win 75 here against a hand that's usually better than yours, so I fold.
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