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Old 08-29-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Poker Bot piece

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I'm not quite that old Pirc. I am old enough to know that no bot will be able to beat above average players either in a ring game or tournaments till I am long gone so unless I am reincarnated I feel no need to holler "The Sky is Falling". Why do you?

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No idea where you're getting this "Sky is Falling" crap. I merely said that it's a definite fact that at some point, and almost certainly before you're long gone, computers will be able to beat humans in poker, and nearly any other game, as well. You supplied the "Sky is Falling" bit all by yourself.

What is so mystical about ring games? It's math, man. Especially online. Although we'd like to think otherwise, all of our intuitions and heuristical heroics boil down to probabilities and math, things a computer does substantially better at that us. It's hole cards, the cards on the table, the action so far, any db of previous actions by the players involved, and the money in the pot...extremely straightforward calculations. What can a human do better? Have a "feeling" that the opponent(s) are bluffing? It's just a probablitity. Make a strange play to confuse the opponent? Computers can do it, too.

To me it seems clear as day that, sooner than later, bots will be beating humans in poker, even in the mystical ring game. If programmed correctly, they'll never make a -EV play, and I know no humans of which this is true. Do you?
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