JJ vs flop C-R

Cosimo · #1 08-22-2005, 03:07 AM

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

MP2 is 38/1 over 120 hands, and both the SB and BB are 50/1 over 200+ hands. These are the three fish at the table, and I've got them all in the hand. Purrrrfect.

Flop: (8 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 raises, Hero ...

This was the first decision point. There's no flush draw here, MP2 didn't limp-reraise (so I think AA is unlikely), so I put him on a 6, a 7, 89, an overpair (88, 99, TT), or maybe a gutshot. There's no way for me to check in-depth PT stats while playing so I don't know his AF, but this guy hasn't been too crazy so I suspect it's low, and that means one of the scarier holdings (a 6, that is). My thinking is call and see what the turn brings. I'm too passive overall, is this someplace I should be 3-betting?

Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero ...

Did I screw up? Should I have 3-bet the flop so I could figure out where he is? His continued aggression suggests trips or better, but is that MUBS? Note that I'm not too worried about this Q -- BB might have one but prolly not. Bat sense tells me worst case is 89 of hearts.

I call after a PFR 12% of the time, so usually I'm betting out (52%). The line I sometimes see is that someone that barely hits the flop will raise me (maybe even a check-raise) when they also hit (like with a K7 on a KT2 flop vs my AK), evidently cuz they don't give the PFR credit. People at the micros with trips and sets rarely raise the flop, so what does this guy have?