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Old 08-12-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default SKLANSKYANITY DEBUNKED

David has postulated in his theistic religion Sklanskyanity, that there is a God who created the universe, there is an afterlife, and that God will reward or punish men based upon their actions in this life. However, he does not believe that such a God would "interfere" in our lives here and now, nor has He done so in the past. I have said that such non-interference would not make sense, but David has said that it would. David also has said that part of Sklanskyanity would be a God who is not or chooses not to be all-powerful. I would like to delve into this a little deeper.

Now of course David can postulate any axioms he wishes for a certain system. However, those axioms must not logically conflict, and they should not be too far-fetched. However, his axioms are indeed in logical conflict with each other and do seem to be far-fetched.

1) A God who is not or chooses not to be all-powerful

Regarding this, which religious people refer to as the divine attribute of omnipotence, this axiom can be seen to be illogical because it follows an axiom with which it is in conflict: that God created the universe. Thus, an all-powerful action par excellance, creation of the universe, is followed by God then not being all-powerful. This is an illogical conclusion, and even if it were to be insisted upon as a second axiom, such an axiom in relation to the first would be far-fetched.

2) That God having created the universe does not “interfere” again until the divine judgment that determines a person’s reward or punishment in the afterlife

This too is an illogical and far-fetched assertion because such asserted non-interference is sandwiched between the two biggest acts of interference possible, between creation and divine judgment for a person’s place in the afterlife. It also is illogical for another extremely important reason. That reason is the purpose of God in creating His creatures. Now for a God who by virtue of His creative power is necessarily self-sufficient, creating lesser creatures can only be for a malevolent purpose, or for a beneficial and kind purpose. I discount the possibility of a malevolent purpose for obvious reasons and because David has not postulated same. Therefore, God created us for a beneficial and kind purpose, and our relation to Him may precisely be seen to be the same as a Father to His children. Thus just as human parents “interfere” beneficially in the lives of their children, through powers that the children lack, so God too occasionally interferes to our ultimate benefit with powers that we lack, namely to violate the physical laws of the universe. Since our earthly life is in furtherance of an eternal afterlife and thus insignicant compared to that, God might choose to interfere for may reasons: to let us live longer so as to change and be judged worthy of that afterlife, so that we may benefit others to that end, or even just to provide some evidence for faith, as was the case with many Biblical miracles.

There is also a final reason to believe that interference is not unreasonable. Namely that what for us would seem to be interference, either obviously supernatural acts contrary to the physical laws of our known universe, or as I believe often is the case more subtle acts that break the physical laws but are not obvious to us (God wants you to avoid a traffic accident and instead of sending an angel to stand before you and block your path merely causes your fuel line to rupture but is not seen to do so), is really not that great an interference at all because we do in fact experience only a limited part of a multi-dimensional universe and thus are as two-dimensional objects in our previously discussed Flatland in relation to God who is a sphere or a tetrahedron. Thus He might not actually be violating the physical laws of the universe by His interference but only seem to do so since we lack the means to physically observe higher dimensions.


Therefore I formulate the following syllogism:

1st Premise: There is a God who created the universe, and by such creation is shown to be all-powerful.

2nd Premise: That God cares about His creatures, and particularly about those intelligent creatures that will have an afterlife and thus desires that they have the best afterlife possible and the best life here and now in furtherance of that ultimate end.

Conclusion: Because God created and cares for His creatures and wants them to have the best afterlife possible as well as a life here and now that furthers that end, He occasionally interferes in the lives of men both in ways that would be deemed by man as supernatural, and in ways that do not actually break the physical laws of the universe, but whose cause cannot scientifically be discovered to be God (BECAUSE HE LOVES US).


Nota Bene: Obviously all humans do not experience the best possible earthly life and many such live lives of great suffering, but I have asserted that such earthly life is not the ultimate end but rather in furtherance of the afterlife, so if you want to argue about “the problem of evil” or “why bad things happen to good people”, start another thread on that topic.
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