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Old 08-02-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default Do Ed Miller\'s SSHE concepts apply on the flop LO8?

In holdem, Ed advocates raising with draws on the flop with 2 to come in situations where your pot equity is greater than the percentage you are contributing that betting round. Example, ram and jam the flop with the nut flush draw with 3 other players in. You are contributing 25% of the money that round, and have a 35% chance to hit your flush (plus you might win if you hit your ace or runner runner dangler). The theory is you make money on every dollar that goes in the pot under those circumstances.

In LO8, is it ever correct to ram and jam the flop with a draw, based on pot equity with 2 to come + number of players contributing?

Specifically, what is your chance to make your flush with no low and no paired board when the flop is unpaired and gives you a 2 flush with: 1) 1 low card, 2) 2 low cards?

For 0 low cards, that answer is not 35%, but rather 30% since you are much more concerned about boats when the board pairs.

With 3 low cards, I am assuming that answer is 15%, since you will hit your flush without a pair showing 30% of the time, but will only win half the pot.

Given that, I am guessing flush draw your equity is approximately 26% with 1 low card on the flop, and 19% with 2 low cards, since a low is more than twice as likely when 2 low cards flop vs. 1.

Does anyone think along the lines of pot equity when deciding to ram and jam the flop with a draw? Or do these holdem concepts not apply?

Thanks for any help.
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