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Old 07-30-2005, 08:09 AM
MagnoliasFM MagnoliasFM is offline
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Default God and logic

Hello. For some reason I was led to this forum tonight (I normally post on other 2+2 forums, and have never visited SMP). I read a couple of the posts where smart atheists like renowned poker author David Sklansky debated their views on God.

As a Christian, I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions about God and point out a few fallacies that will hopefully get some of you thinking in a direction of seeking the truth, (which is what we all want) instead of running around in logical circles.

There is only one God, and he has certain characteristics. If you are talking about a God that does not have these characteristics, you are not talking about God; you're just talking about some made-up hero, and are falsely labeling him as "God." God is all-knowing, all-powerful, holy, and just, among other things. If you say things like

"...we did statistical studies regarding metaphysical claims and understood how physics pretty much proves that everything that happens is not interefered with by non natural forces," -- David Sklansky

you aren't talking about God. God created physics and all science for that matter. It'd be like Mario telling Luigi "There's no way we were programmed--look, I can never jump higher than this ::jump::, so it proves that no force outside our game can make me jump higher."

I believe in a God who revealed Himself to me in an absolute way, and I believe that the Bible is God-breathed and absolutely true, in the same way that you believe 2+2=4 is an absolute truth. I cannot by my own power, nor do I have the right to, convince you of any of this on my own because I'm just a human like you. However, God can, and will, if you seek Him.

I know a lot of you have questions about God and you feel that because you cannot fully understand Him, He cannot be real to you. But remember, just because you don't know the answer to something, doens't mean an answer does not exist. In fact, there is ONE ANSWER, and only one answer to questions such as "How did the universe and humans come about?" No matter what you believe, or don't believe, logically, there has to be one absolutely true answer, whether you know, don't know, care, or don't care. Just because you don't see contrary evidence does not mean you are correct in your view. Many intelligent people have been fooled into thinking one thing when something else is true. The only thing that cannot be disputed is absolute truth, and anything that contradicts it cannot be true. If you are not 100% sure about your view, you should seek the truth. If you think it is impossible to be 100% sure about anything, ask yourself how, then, is it possible to be sure of your uncertainty?

Whenever you ask questions about God, ask yourself this: Are you asking earnestly, to seek the truth? If so, you will be led towards the truth. If you are not earnest, and asking rhetorical questions trying to prove your own point, you will not benefit yourself in any way. If all your questions about God were answered, would you be able to believe in God? If your answer is "no" then your questions are more like statements of your own faith than honest questions about God.

Lastly, before I fall asleep, I would like to say that if you find any flaws in my reasoning (which is very likely, since I am imperfect), it does not, in any way, disprove the existence or identity of God. I along with any other Christian on this board am fallable and make mistakes all the time. Our hope is that we may point you in the right direction to seek for yourself what we have obtained through irresistable divine revelation.

Coming to Christ may seem like a paradox--whether or not you will find God has been known for eternity, but since you do not know, you must seek. Read the Gospel and ask God to give you an understanding of Him and His plan for your eternal salvation. Do not close your mind to the truth though it may be uncomfortable. Seek, and you will find.
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