How bad is this: 44 vs. pfr?

keikiwai · #1 06-20-2005, 11:32 PM

Is this the good, the bad, or the ugly?

Table w/ very bad players at BBJ. No spectacular reads. PFR is loose w/ his PFRs.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, CO calls (CO is ALL IN), Hero calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Tiny pocket pair w/ 1 post, 1 call, 1 pfr, and 1 cold call (all in) (UTG folds pf I think). According to SSHE lp call w/ any pocket if 3 people in the pot already. I assume MP1 won't fold.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Backdoor str8t plus 2 outs for the 4.... wait... if the 4 falls A5 makes a str8t as does 56. Neither hand very likely but A5s is a possibility at this table, even from pfr.

But I do have a made hand. And after all what can I put PFR on that beats me besides a broadway pocket, possibly 99, but not 77?

So how many outs do I have?

Do you fold? Re-raise? Call?

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Wohoo I'm open ended... 6outs... the 4 isn't even an out anymore, since if the 4 falls an A makes a str8t... high probability pfr has an A. But if he doesn't have an A, a 4 would beat his big pocket or anything else reasonable he has...

I'm getting 6.7 to 1 to call, and I need 6.7 to 1 for 6 outs.

River: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP3 bets, Hero...?

The K falls. Dangerous overcard for me (as opposed to the others on board so far). He could well have a K, but he could also have AQ, AJ, AT.... hmmm....

I may have the best hand w/ 44 unimproved...

Do you call?

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between MP3, CO, Hero and BB.