Ciaffone's Middle Limit Poker

[sethypooh21]

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But I agree. Against certain players, the hand OP referred to is a fold.

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You are a beautiful beautiful man. That is the first time so far Ive got a concurment on this.

I agree with Sigmunds analysis as well. Some of these hands are obviously very player/read dependant. It is a great book.

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I've gotten into this exact debate about MLH many times, and my point has always been that though I imagine that there are games where this is a clear fold, I've never played in one.

In addition, the 'image' problem that folding this creates seems tough to me. If your better opponenets know you will lay down TPTK to a CR in this spot...

I think that the poker landscape has changed so much since the book was first written that the "tough california 20-40" game the book was written for has maybe moved to 40-80 or higher.