who's right?

[bernie]

actually, many authors tend to fear flush over flush much more than normal. IMO i think by not fearing it, for reasons i gave, is a minority opinion in many circles. the 'regular' rule also doesnt mean you wont lose like this, it's just not as often as some think. an easy test? when you see it happen, look at the losers hand and ask yourself if youd have played his hand in that position. usually the answer is no. hence, you wouldnt have been beat in this manner.

however, i do agree that with the players involved, more account shouldve been taken for the possibility. not just the information from the jammers, but the guys calling in between. THOSE guys usually have at least a flush draw that may beat yours. especially with chips flying. on top of that, with that many callers, you dont have 9 outs. some of your outs are likely gone.

i was also pointing out the opponents possible perspective. taking into account how he may have misread the situation a little.

lastly, some of the biggest pots ive seen were won by baby flushes...

just some idee'ers

b