Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

[FMMonty]

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When does it become an acceptable beat? when you are a 75% favorite? 67% favorite? I doubt Phil Ivey is telling anyone how incredible of a bad beat he suffered in the WSOP as a 6-1 favorite.

I do think it's reasonable to refuse to shake someone's hand if they celebrate loudly after knocking you out of a tournament. I wouldn't do this anyway, unless it was really drastic like this crazy kid who got 8th from the WSOP, but I don't blame people for not shaking someone's hand after they start screaming in your face right after you suffer a bad beat.

I understand it's exciting to win a big hand, but if you refuse to take into consideration how the other person who just lost the hand feels (which is what you are doing when you celebrate right in front of them), then I don't see why they are obligated to politely shake your hand.

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Couldn't agree more, over celebration is far worse in my book.