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Old 05-05-2005, 12:13 PM
chipolino chipolino is offline
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Default Are you guys in autobet mode if you raise pre flop?

While battling to improve my aggression(I'm weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ) I find myself betting too much into flops that I shouldn't have just because I raised pre-flop. Here's an example:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, SB calls.

So I decided to hit SSHE once again. In the section "Playing Overcards" p.221 Ed Miller gives very good guidelines for how to approach this situation. I'm not gonna go into the details here. But I'm just gonna give some reasons why I should not have bet the flop in the example given by following his guidelines.

Even though the pot is somewhat big, a)our hand has no backdoor draws, b) the flop gives straight and flush possibities(two of our overcards put three to a flush), c) we're facing 3 opponents, d) we're out of position. We're drawing very slim. So, how likely is a bet here to win the pot immediatelly? Probably none. Will it improve our winning chances later on? Probably not.

So, should I bet this pot? No. Should I call a bet? No. Does this make weak tight by not following on my pre-flop aggression? I'll let you guys decide this one.

My main questions regarding all this are: how many of you guys just autobet the flop just because you raised pre-flop regardless of the flop? How many of you go thru all this thinking process?

I'm just currious to hear your thoughts.
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