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Old 05-02-2005, 12:16 PM
veganmav veganmav is offline
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Default Fold to a turn raise in 5/10?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.20 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Js Ac (one pair, jacks).
Button has Qs Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Button wins 14.20 BB. </font>

on the turn I realize I'm probably behind, to probably KQ, and possibly also KJ, or AK, I put him on KQ so I have three outs to the ace, and 2 outs to the jack for 5 outs, the pot is offering me about 11 to 1 and with 5 outs I am about 8 to 1 so if he had KQ i have odds to call. So I call his turn raise, the river doesn't help, and now the pot is offering me 13 to 1 on a call but am I over 90% sure that I'm beat? It's hard to be that sure, so I call the river bet too, is that ok? I am also disregarding the fact that he could have AK and KJ or a set, so I guess I probably should have just folded to his raise on the turn,.. disagree?

What do you all think?
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