tournament ethics/strategy question

[Schwartzy61]

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When someone is all in and two others see the flop it is generally accepted in tournament play that you should check it down unless you have the nuts to maximize the chance at eliminating the short stack.

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In the same sense, it is generally accepted that
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] AKo loses value in multiway pots.
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Flush draws win 3 5 % of the time.
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] You just can't beat bad players!

Oops, those are all wrong. It is just a fallacy that you should check it down when someone is all in. You should avoid bluffing into a dry sidepot. It is all risk with no reward. However, you should often bet into a dry sidepot with far worse than the nuts, even if this may push out a hand that would have beaten the all-in player.

It is not your duty to knock players out. The benefit is minimal, and is spread out among the many survivors. If you fail to value bet or to protect your hand, you bear 100% of the cost of your mistake.

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Well I think you have some serious problems with the English language. As soon as you can understand where I was coming from with my post, perhaps then you can post a reply to it that makes some kind of sense. Not to mention you go on to basically prove my point. What good is protecting your hand against the other big stack when the All-in has you beat? What point is value betting if it knocks out the other big stack and you win nothing because the All-in has you beat? The extra chips from betting aren't worth as much to you as another slot in the money.

You obviously have trouble with what you're trying to do in this situation. Knocking the player out of the tourney maximizes your chances of winning the whole enchilada, not that one little taco of a pot.

However, it mainly applies to postflop play. Preflop I think you still play your hand as you normally would to maximize a chance at winning. The situation doesn't apply when you have to call to maximize the chances at knocking out a short stack, only when you need to check it down.

But then after the flop you should be checking through the river if it's more than heads up with an all-in.

But of course not everyone follows this principle or even knows about it, so I wouldn't expect someone online to do it.