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Old 04-11-2005, 03:45 AM
bigpooch bigpooch is offline
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If it's not "reasonable" for someone to 3-bet you with a
medium 2 pair when you raise from CO you are playing way
too tightly - getting 3-bet by a big pair isn't unusual for
me. If you are not playing too tightly, and are not dealing
with a strange sort of clueless loose players who turn weak-
tight after a raise, I am quite certain raising is more +EV
than open limping with this hand (and almost every playable
hand).


Reraising with AA is actually -EV against a theoretically
correct CO raise and similarly with a hand like ATT22. If
you are playing with typical players on the button and the
SB, I'll stand by my statement that limping rather than
raising will gain you 0.1 to 0.2 BBs extra in the long run.
Most of that gain comes from the SB being in the pot. Of
course, if the BB defends with shorts or other inadequate
hands, you should raise.

On the other hand, with small flushes or weaker opening
hands, almost in all situations, you are better off to open
with a raise.


So the real test is play after the draw. Again your
"typical tough opponent" may be different from mine, but
when my opponent checks to me after the draw, they almost
never have aces up, and they can't have trips unless they
started with KK. If I now bet my unimproved AAK, my tough
opponent will call me with AA the majority of the time
(think about this, this is really the perfect situation for
value betting a pair). Had I drawn 1, I can no longer value
bet unimproved, because I am less likely to get called by
AA, and it's more likely SB is checking aces up.


First, let me state that the improvement chances are not the
most important factor. The two most important numbers to
examine are: 1) how often you have the best hand; 2) the
long run EV differential when compared to drawing two cards
(drawing three I will ignore).

I'll look into drawing two versus drawing one versus when
both players play close to optimally (when I have some time)
and you may be right that drawing two could be better than
drawing one. Of course, most of the draw players, even the
tough ones, won't play optimally for one reason or another!
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Practically, I'll agree that if you draw 1 or 2, you'll less
likely be paid off by AA even though it's clear that the SB
should be paying you off 19/27 of the time in the 1-2, so
most of these payoffs will be with one pair. But if you are
open raising with hands such as an ace-high flush draw or
KQJT, you will be paid off here even when you draw one to
AAKQ and it's possible that your opponent will less likely
pay you off when you draw two, unless you often draw two to
a pair (which in most cases is -EV).

Admittedly, the EV differential will be small, and I will
guess that it will be less than 0.05 BBs when comparing the
cases of drawing one to AAKQ and drawing two to AAK.
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