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Old 01-25-2005, 02:53 PM
Shorty35 Shorty35 is offline
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Default Stop n go big stack vs very big stack?

Given the result, I definitely played this suboptimally but I would appreciate critique of my thinking about this use of a stop n go. We are near bubble (63 left 50 paid); I am above average stack, Villan is big stack. I only play to make final tables, so I am willing to gamble at the appropriate times. Villan has been very tight and appears to be solid player. I have shown down solid hands and also have a reasonably tight image. Here is the hand - my thinking follows

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t8620)</font>
UTG (t13927)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t16070)</font>
MP1 (t5980)
MP2 (t809)
CO (t3160)
Button (t6314)
SB (t7855)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t2000</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls t1400.

Flop: (t4300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls [t7220] , UTG+1 calls t6620.

Turn: (t10920) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t10920) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t10920

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qh Kh (one pair, queens).
UTG+1 has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t10920. </font>

Preflop I was very close to folding -- didnt want to tangle with the big stack. But given how close we were to the bubble, I figured there was a good chance that he was using his image to steal. I also figured that this was a good chance to become a very big stack if I hit a winner.

I called with the intention of folding if I missed the flop or pushing if it hit. I figured that he might even lay down a big hand this way figuring me for trips or another very big hand. The flush draw was too tempting - and I pushed into his KK (he called instantly).

Apart from my flawed application in this hand, do you think there is any merit to the use of a stop n go as a big stack versus very big stack strategy. Or is there just too much gamble in that? Perhaps later in the tourney is a better time for this type of play?
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