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[Vince Lepore]

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The evidence 'that nothing teaches you how to reason more than philosophy' should be available from those that practice philosophy - Philosophers - is this not the case

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No, it is not the case. Philosophers are men that reason. A philosophy is a concept. Each philosopher that you mentioned were expert "reasoners". Of that I will agree. How they became expert in their field is more to the point of this discssion.

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Looking through history at what science has produce and what philosophy has produce and the overall effects of each, it is my opinion that Science wins in being more logical and based on the best reasoning. Others may, of course, disagree with this hypothesis

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Science has produced trinkets and toys for man's enjoyment and quality of life. Philosophy has produced the societies we find throughout the world. Whether or not science wins the "being more logical" test does not prove nor disprove whether or not philosophy is the best place to learn to reason.

Your arguement, in fact, is more akin to philosophical discussion than hard science's logical deduction. You are reasoning as a philosopher would rather than a physicist.

Vince