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Old 01-05-2005, 12:30 PM
Ray Of Light Ray Of Light is offline
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Default Problems with Straight/Flush Draws...

Up until recently, I felt quite confident with my drawing hands, but after reading SSH, and learning about redraws, and reverse implied odds, I feel a little out of sorts as to how I should have played the following two hands:


HAND ONE

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7c, Ts.
UTG folds, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Ah, 8h, 9d (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls, CO folds.

What do you do with a straight draw, when there is a flush draw on the board? Draw to six outs (or possibly less, with the flush redraw out there)... or do you ignore the possibilty of the flush and continue to draw to 8 outs?

Turn: (4.50 BB) Jd (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets, SB folds, Hero raises, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2d (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls $0.75 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: 11.87 BB


HAND TWO

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7d, 8d.
UTG calls, MP calls, Button raises, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls.

I feel that this was simply too loose, and should have been an automatic preflop fold? However could I claim this as a value call from the SB with any two suited?

Flop: (9 SB) 3h, 5d, Td (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Button folds, Hero caps, UTG calls.

Am I being too aggressive with the non-nut flush into such a large field? In a full ring game, I would only call with this, (raising only with a nut flush draw).

Turn: (9 BB) Kc (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 3c (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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