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Old 12-18-2004, 02:20 PM
Sqred Sqred is offline
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Default Re: Terrible call on the turn? and question about pot odds

I know my advice was simplistic but he is at a pretty early stage in his development. If you are getting three callers the money going in on the flop has positive expectation if he indeed has the best draw. If you don't think you have the best draw why in the world would you call any bets with what is currently ten high?

I understand the criticism of my simplicity, but what good does passively playing decent non-nut draws do? Might as well muck it if you are that big of a pessimist. The last thing I would do is just check call the ting and get myself caught in a spot like he did on the turn.

Also, I think by putting in as many as possible on the flop I will have a much better idea how live my draw is once that goofy action breaks out on the turn.

As it is, he called one small bet when he probably had the best draw and a multiway pot that gave him positive expectation to raise, then he got trapped for 4 BIG BETS without getting the right odds for his draw.

I really think a lot of the old hands really play non nut flush draws to passively. Fine, reduce variance, but then why bother getting involved at all? There have been times in my life when I have simply called the flop and check folded this type of draw on the turn when big action broke out. I was on a short bankroll, needed every dime I had, and was trying to grind a 20/40 for 300 a day. In this day and age players who passively play non nut flush draws are leaving money on the table.

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