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Old 11-13-2004, 10:20 AM
JackKingoff JackKingoff is offline
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Default Second Post - Help with AA, AK (TPTK) pressured on the turn

This thread I'm going to post a few recent AK hands I've had trouble with. Since playing on P.room, I've found AKo/AQo to be 2 of my worst performing holdings.

Again, the theme of being led into on the turn after you've shown strength all the way through.

This is 1/2 Pokerroom, table is playing loose, and for the most part passive.

Hand #1

My goal in raising the turn was to knock out the blinds and make it HU, which didn't work. In hindsight, calling the river was useless as surely I was drawing dead to at least 1 hand. Is folding to the 3-bet on the turn an option?

Hand #2: 3 Bet the turn, assuming AA is the only hand that beats me

PokerRoom 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (21 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 25 BB

PokerRoom 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB


I have essentially the same troubles with AQo, here are some inspiring numbers:

Here are the offsuit hand stats:

AKo (47 times, 28% win, -0.66 BB/hand)
AQo (51 times, 22% win, -0.33 BB/hand)

I'm thinking it's partly sample size, since my results on P.stars 1/2 are

AKo (89 times, 49.44%, 0.58 BB/hand)
AQo (88 times, 30.68%, 0.17 BB/hand)

Granted, P.stars is generally tighter post-flop, meaning position + pre flop raise + ragged flop = small pot win.
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