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Old 10-25-2004, 05:55 PM
bigfishead bigfishead is offline
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Default Re: Another \"You make the call\" post

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Actual hand from Canterbury, reconstructed to the best of my memory.

Board reads K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Seat one is EP and bets. Seat 5 raises, seat 10 folds, Seat 1 re-raises immediately in turn as the dealer scoops up his cards, which were unprotected, and places them on top of the deck. Both the dealer and the player realize this immediately. The dealer calls over the floor and explains his error, even showing that he has not moved his hand off Seat 1's cards. Seat 1 politely, but clearly with some distress, pleads for his cards to be returned. The dealer tells the floor he is certain he has the player's cards on top of the deck, and the player offers to tell the floor what they are exactly, so he can verify. Two players at the table say they saw the action by the dealer and agree. Seat 5 says shrugs, indicating he will abide by the floor without complaint.

Do you pull the cards out of the muck?

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1. EVRYONE knows they are his cards, no opposition from other player, whom it appears is willing to accept the outcome as it was intended to be.

2. Floor has aknowledged this info. Dealer has made error(tho player didnt have chips covered also.).

3. able to verify exact cards by rank and suit according to location.

now...I have seen this. On one such occasion the floor asked the players if they would agree to a full chop.

On another occasion the cards were verified and the other player wanted to see to it the pot was awarded the player with the best hand. Even if that meant he lost he was ok with it because he didnt want to let 1 pot cost him EV for the nite or be known as one "taking advantage of a situation".

It does depend too on players attitudes sometimes. Yes...the HUMAN part of the game, even a floor person can just stick to the hard line when it is one of the known local jerks. A very good reason to treat your poker pesonnel well.
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