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Old 10-20-2004, 10:02 PM
jtr jtr is offline
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Default Too cautious? Pair and flush draw meets turn raise

Hi, all.

The table in this hand is typical Party 2/4; the villain (button) seems to be a good player with sensible pre- and post-flop aggression, just a little loose preflop. My questions are really about whether I was too much of a wuss on the turn and river.


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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(8 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

<font color="green">I think I played this in a standard way preflop and on the flop.</font>

Turn: (11 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

<font color="green">On the turn my flush draw arrives and with so many people still in the hand it seems worth betting for value. I'm happy with the results, I get raised which I don't mind but I don't reraise -- is this a mistake? I didn't want to put pressure on the remaining two callers (MP2 and MP3) to fold. Also I figure my equity right now is only about 20% as my pair of 8s are no good any more, so a reraise for value is not on.</font>

River: (21 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

<font color="green">Then on the river I am saved (or am I?) by an ace and make 2 pair. I considered playing the river aggressively but was concerned that the guy had a set or had exactly AQ. Weak tight thinking?</font>

Final Pot: 24 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 24 BB, between Button, BB and Hero.</font>
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