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Old 10-16-2004, 01:57 PM
CarlSpackler CarlSpackler is offline
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Default Re: It was proper and smart

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Most people think using the other candidates children as a political football isnt right. Its been an unwritten rule of presidential elections for a long time.


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I agree, but this is absolutely not the case here. Kerry stated a plain fact, that Cheney's daughter is gay, and that it probably wasn't a choice. I don't here her arguing against this. Also, it's not like he "outed her." It's already public knowledge that she's gay, and THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HER BEING GAY. You're acting like Kerry mentioned that Bush's daughters got busted for under age drinking. This would be a great legitimate example of a very unethical low blow which would deserve great outrage.

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I havent seen one person give a logical reason why when asked "Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?" You immediately bring up a certain individual. If someone asked you that, would you answer in the fashion that Kerry did?

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It's smart to put a human face on an issue such as this. Both candidates have cited numerous individuals when answering several debate questions, and rightly so. This is very common and basic debate strategy.

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It was an attempt by Kerry to score some tactical point and blew up in his face. Contrary to Chris Alger's claim, the Bush camp did not get "outplayed." Rather, Kerry overplayed his hand by underestimating the negative reaction this would generate.

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Obviously, Kerry brought up her name to score tactical points, just like he and Bush have done whenever citing an individual's name in answering debate questions.

As far as this "blowing up in his face," I don't get it. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I've personally eliminated all bigoted and predudicial views in my life, and often I forget that most Americans are not nearly as enlightened. The true moral outrage with regards to this issue, is that Cheney is selling out, and not supporting his daughter as he should. I'm not questioning his love for his daughter, but I'm deeply critical of his basic character.

When I have children, I don't care if they're born straight or gay, I'll support them to the fullest of my ability for the remainder of my life in all situations. From a moral perspective, Cheney has failed miserably. Dick Cheney's running mate Bush has openly supported an amendment to the Constitution which violates Cheney's daughter's basic civil rights, and he still supports the guy. This is absolutely irreprehensible. If Cheney couldn't get Bush to back down on this one, there's no way he should have accepted the nomination to be vice president for a 2nd term--he should of resigned in protest. Cheney has piss poor family values.
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